A few weeks ago, I stumbled across a blog entitled "Lutheran / Catholic Reconciliation and Reunion of All Christians". It was not what I thought it could be. Indeed, while it might have been a center for Lutheran and Catholic dialogue, in fact, the blogger, Kathy Suarez, writes quite critically of Lutheranism. Often she engages in stock Catholic tropes which display no understanding of Lutheranism itself. The following is an exchange between Ms. Suarez and myself. Unfortunately, she did not see fit to respond to my last entry. I thought there could have been more for each of us to say.
Not my best writing. Maybe I could have been a bit more
diplomatic. But I leave it to the reader
to decide for themselves.
Catholicism: Scripture and Grace
November
01, 2014
by
Kathy Suarez
One simple way to
express the essence of Catholicism is with the words “Scripture and
Grace.” In Matthew 16:18 we read that Jesus founded the Church upon
Peter. “You are Peter and upon this Rock I will build my church and the
gates of Hades will not prevail against it.”
Some will argue that Jesus
changed his mind about founding his Church upon Peter when the
disciple questioned Jesus about his prophecy of his great suffering
in Jerusalem, being killed and raised from the dead (Matthew 16:21-23).
This argument does not stand up when placed in context with the rest
of Scripture. Peter loved Jesus. Peter’s statement was
not malicious or sinful. He simply did not understand. Jesus
is God — He did not revoke his solemn pronouncement about the foundation
and structure of his Church because of Peter’s inability to
understand the plan of God at one particular moment. Peter’s
weakness throughout the Gospel reveals the inherent message that
the Church is guided by the Holy Spirit.
Immediately after this, in
Matthew 17, we read that “Six days later” Jesus took “Peter and James and
his brother John” to the mountain of the Transfiguration. If Jesus had
rejected Peter as head of the disciples, why would he take him to the
Transfiguration, and why would Peter’s name be listed first in the
Gospel account? (Matthew 17:1,2) This is the full context of the
Scripture passage, Matthew 16:13-28.
In Matthew 16:18 Jesus
promised that the forces of evil will not prevail against his
Church. He did not say that the Church would not have any
problems. Christ protects the Church down through the
ages. This is Grace. It takes faith to believe this. The
grand irony of the Reformation is that Martin Luther cried “Faith, faith, faith!” but
then lost his faith that God would protect and guide the Church, by
Grace, as Christ founded it, upon Peter and his successors.
It is also good to
note a second important and foundational Scripture: John, Chapter
6. Here is proof of the Real Presence in the Eucharist and,
interestingly and prophetically, the account of how “many of
his disciples” could not accept it and “no longer went about with him”
(John 6:66-69). Luther, besides breaking away from the
Church, also altered and diminished the Eucharist.
Jesus is Lord of the
Church, and his Church is guided by the power of the Holy
Spirit through the successors of Peter, the Magisterium. This
is how Christ established the Church and how he continues to guide and
protect it. Scripture and Grace. If you cannot believe this, look
at the alternative: The chaos of the Protestant movement — thousands and
thousands of small churches and denominations each going its own way.
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Comments
Even if (for the sake of
argument) Jesus meant that He was to build His Church upon Peter, it hardly
follows that there is a straight line from Peter to the Catholic Church as we
now have it. Indeed, it is hardly proved that Peter was ever bishop of Rome.
Protestants generally are
puzzled at the Catholic obsession with “the Church”. What divides Protestants
from Catholics is doctrine–that is their obsession–particularly the Lutheran
doctrine of sola fide. Catholic laymen and laywomen are generally loath to
discuss doctrine–and Lutherans find there is a lot of ignorance about what
Lutherans actually believe. There is a lot of nonsense about “Luther wanted his
own church” and Luther “made up his own religion”. As a matter of history,
Luther never wanted to leave the Catholic Church: he wanted to reform it. But
the Pope kicked him out and had the Emperor put Luther under an order of death
on sight. This was followed by a series of persecutions of all who came to be
called Lutherans. So, while Catholics cry in their beer about a divided Church.
they should remember the blood on their own hands and the part they played in
dividing the Church. Catholics should also remember the Church was gravely
divided long before the Reformers were born. (Of which the Catholic Church
played no small part.)
Aside from all this, it is
a wonder why Catholics think the Catholic Church is such an attractive option.
When Protestants look at the Catholic Church, they see a mess. Factions at each
others’ throats. They see a lot of unholy political intrigue in choosing a
Pope. They see a Catholic Church seriously rent by those who listen to it’s
Magisterium and those who publicly denounce it. (If one cannot subscribe to the
teachings of the Catholic Church, Protestants are put off by such people who
don’t have the integrity to leave it.)
Catholics themselves often
are the worst advertisements for the Church. When I was in college, I met many
Catholic youth who gone through Catholic schools and resented it. Indeed, they
were the bitterest people I had ever met. They said things I would never say
about the Catholic Church. It seemed I have more respect for the Catholic
Church than these vinegary individuals. And my experience with these miscreants
is hardly unique.
What would Christ say about
this “fruit of the tree”?
How can one deal with this
sort? Once I had invited a Catholic friend to an ecumenical gathering for all
Christians on campus. He replied with language unfit to print and then told me
he had already had his “God-time”. I thought it was tragic. For the sake of his
own soul, I had hoped he would reconcile himself to the Catholic Church. I
never attempted to make him a Lutheran–knowing that was just a bridge too far.
But he preferred a godless existence to a life of faith.
So your construction and “proof-texting” for the sole legitimacy of the Church of Rome is useless when Protestants behold the various “fruits” of the Catholic Church. Many Protestants don’t even think the Catholic Church is Christian. (As a Lutheran, I strongly object to this contention.)
The Catholic Church is
broken. It has a lot of work to do in its own backyard before it goes off on
Protestants.
Hi
Mick — I’m sorry that you feel the way you do about the Catholic Church. Sounds
like you’ve had some bad experiences. Just remember that the Catholic Church is
very large and there are all sorts of people in it.
I’ve
said many times on this blog that Luther was not “kicked out” of the Church by
the Pope. Luther was excommunicated. He chose to leave after that. My use of
Matthew 16:18 is not “proof-texting.” From the earliest days of the Church, and
for 2,000 years, the Church has held that Peter is the Rock, the foundation of
the Church, and that the Popes are his successors.
The
Catholic Faith is very simple. Try to keep an open mind… and thanks for reading
my blog.
Sorry. When excommunication
is followed by an order for him to killed, I’d say “kicked out” is a polite way
to put it. That is why he was “kidnapped” by friendly forces and spirited into
hiding as it was unlikely he would make it back to Wittenberg alive by himself.
Persecution of Lutherans afterword removed any notion that the Catholic Church
regarded them as remaining in the fold.
I have long believed that
if the Catholic Church had absorbed Lutheran theology as it had with order
challenging movements (perhaps making Lutherans a special order within the
Church), the divide could have been avoided. After all, Lutherans are
Augustinians at heart.
Indeed, present day
Catholic theologians are far more tolerant and understanding of Luther (not
that they agree with him) than in the days of old. If the same tolerance had
been forthcoming when Luther and his followers were alive, we would be
Catholics still.
I have a great deal of
respect and sympathy for the Catholic Church and spend a great deal of time
dispelling falsehoods common among other Protestants. As you may know, a lot of
other Protestants regard the Lutheran Church as essentially Catholic–and they
don’t mean that as a compliment. When I am in ecumenical gatherings, I am met
with a great deal of suspicion and uneasiness when I talk about the Gospel. To
many, I am a “closet Catholic” because I am a Lutheran.
I have considered becoming
a Catholic several times; but I was always held back after viewing the Catholic
Church as it is rather than in the ideal. Sadly, the Catholic Church is just
not all that attractive. I may not like much of the Lutheran Church is its
modern manifestations, but it is my home and where I am accepted by others who
share the Lutheran faith. When I have attended Mass (my sister is a Catholic),
I cannot say the same.
I have met many, many
Catholics who feel they have been wounded by the Church in some way (sometimes
I don’t think they are being fair). But what is it about the Catholic Church
that brings this about?
I believe someday the
Lutheran Church and the Catholic Church will be reunited. But, in spite of the
warm relations between us, that time is not now.